Navigating Career Challenges
Episode 209 - Assessing company culture during interviews, giving feedback, and finding a mentor: some great career questions answered
In this episode, we delve into some popular career topics that many professionals often grapple with. From seeking mentorship and providing feedback to understanding workplace culture and preparing for interviews, we cover it all. Below, I have listed the questions and summarized my answers. But please, listen to the full episode for more contexts and personal anecdotes on each of these important topics.
1. The LinkedIn Open for Work Indicator: Yes or No?
Question from Eric: What's your view on the public "open for work" indicator on LinkedIn? Should it be on or off, especially when targeting specific recruiters and not being currently employed?
My answer: The "open for work" indicator can indeed be a double-edged sword. Keeping it on for recruiters and off for public view might be a strategic move, especially if you're targeting specific roles or industries. Listen to the podcast episode to hear me talk about the exemptions to this "rule".
2. Decoding Company Culture During Interviews
Question from Sally: How does one subtly deduce culture during the interviewing stage?
My answer: Gauging a company's culture during the recruitment process, which includes the job interview stage, can be subtle yet revealing. Look for clues in how recruiters and interviewers interact with you and each other, the questions they ask, and even the office environment. Additionally, ask questions about team collaboration, company values, and growth opportunities to get insights into the organization's culture. In the episode I share a few personal experiences that may resonate with you.
3. Seeking Mentorship from a Former Manager
Gaining mentorship can accelerate your career growth. Before you reach out, follow this step-by-step guide:
Start with self-reflection
Choose the right communication medium that your mentor prefers (not you!)
Provide a clear, concise request
Pick an inviting subject line if you're sending an email
Stay flexible in your mentorship format
Offer to reciprocate with skills or insights
Exhibit patience and professionalism
4. Delivering Feedback Using the BIS Model
Feedback is crucial for personal and professional growth. The Behavior, Impact, and Suggestion (BIS) model offers an effective approach:
Describe the observed behavior
Convey its impact
Offer a suggestion for improvement
This structured approach depersonalizes feedback, making it constructive and actionable.
5. Determining Interview or Job Attire
When in doubt about what to wear for an interview or the first day at a new job, consider observing the office environment. Perhaps, have a coffee nearby during peak office hours to get a sense of the usual attire.
6. Making the Most of a Break to Boost your Job Search
If you've taken a week off to focus on job applications:
Focus on quality over quantity: Aim for up to four well-researched applications
Use platforms like Glassdoor and LinkedIn for company insights
Practice for future job interviews and familiarize yourself with the STAR (Situation, Task, Action, Result) concept for answering questions
Recommendation: Consider resources like "Reset Your Career" for templates and guidance to make the most of your career break
Thank you for tuning in to this Q&A episode of The Job Hunting Podcast. If you have further questions or topics you'd like covered, don't hesitate to reach out. Until next time, keep navigating your career with clarity and confidence!
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About the Host, Renata Bernarde
Hello, I’m Renata Bernarde, the Host of The Job Hunting Podcast. I’m also an executive coach, job hunting expert, and career strategist. I teach professionals (corporate, non-profit, and public) the steps and frameworks to help them find great jobs, change, and advance their careers with confidence and less stress.
If you are an ambitious professional who is keen to develop a robust career plan, if you are looking to find your next job or promotion, or if you want to keep a finger on the pulse of the job market so that when you are ready, and an opportunity arises, you can hit the ground running, then this podcast is for you.
In addition to The Job Hunting Podcast, on my website, I have developed a range of courses and services for professionals in career or job transition. And, of course, I also coach private clients
Timestamps to guide your listening
01:36 - What is your view on LinkedIn's public "open for work" indicator?
05:26 - How to assess company culture during the job interviewing stage?
14:18 - How to ask a former manager to be a mentor?
22:23 - How do you give feedback to a work colleague without causing more issues?
32:51 - How do you find out what to wear for your interview or a new job?
36:56 - I took a week off work to focus on job applications. How do I make the most of that time?
Transcript of this episode
Everyone. I have some great questions here for you today. I'll be answering each one of them. And if you think that you can skip a question, you can go ahead and look at the timeline and in the episode, show notes. And you can skip a question and go to the next one. This is going to be an easy episode for those that are in a hurry, but they may have the same question that one of the other listeners asked, and it may suit you to sort of. Listen to it right now. And for those of you who are gardening, walking, cooking. Or meditating, listening to my voice. Hello. There. I hope that you enjoy. The answers to these important questions. I like all of them. I think they're all very important.
So let's go ahead and answer a question from Eric. This is one that I have answered before, but that's okay. I will keep talking about it. What is your view on the open to work indicator on or off? I have it turned on for recruiters and not public view, even though I am currently unemployed. I've always questioned the effectiveness of the green indicator. That's the banner that appears in the profile picture when you turn it on for everyone to see. Given recruiters always searching profiles and I am trying to be more specific in my search, different views. What is yours? I believe I have heard you say. Placing open for work for public is not very strategic. Thank you for your opinion. Okay. Eric, I am with you. I think you already heard me say, that I believe that the open to work banner is not very specific, but remember that I cater for a. Listenership in a clientele of more experienced corporate professionals. So these are people that are. Halfway through their careers. They have corporate jobs. They have public sector jobs, not-for-profits jobs. They're usually managers of projects or teams. They have advanced a lot in their careers already. They're not early graduates. They're not junior professionals. I would probably recommend if you are a young professional to have the banner on. I think it suits them. I also think it would suit freelancers, people that are always looking for gigs. That would also suit them. So if that's you then. Listen, I don't think it's Eric, but if it's the listener. And you're sort of thinking, oh, but I have the banner on think about what is it that you're trying to achieve? A more experienced professional would probably at the end of their tenure at the job that they left, you know, for whatever reason they would write a farewell post on LinkedIn. I think it's very a good practice to do that. I'm currently working with a client helping her write her farewell post she's leaving her work. It's a redundancy. These things happen. If you have a long corporate career, chances are. If you get to the middle of that pyramid to the top. You might be made redundant. From time to time, it's something you have to account for in a risk you need to manage. So we're writing a farewell note. We're adding, you know, individuals like her manager and all those that managed her. And IES past and great colleagues, she's tagging them and she's going to post them. That message on Friday, which I believe is her last day. So, you know, I think that that is something you should do and then make it Open to work for recruiters only. So that's an option and the box that pops up when you want to be open to work. You can choose the job titles that you're looking for. You can indicate a whole bunch of other pointers. And leave it open. To work just for recruiters. And that would be my preference for more experienced professionals. I hope this answer your question, Eric. I hope that other people also Benefit from what I've just said. And like I said, these things can be quite strategic. So, you know, you might want to talk to a career coach. I might want to talk to me. Go to my website, book a time. I'm a consultation for you. It's worth it. it can make a huge difference, you know? This exit strategy for you.
Okay, next question is from. From Sally. My question is how does one the deuce culture doing the interview stage? Oh, what a great question. I love, love this question. I have been tagged on a post on LinkedIn about this question and I answered it there. I'm going to talk about it here with you as well. And because it was a post, there were other answers from people in her network that I think would, were really genius. And for the poster herself, she added some great tips. And I want to tell you all about it. Sometimes we are so taken by the fact that we've been invited for an interview and the selection process is. You know, moving to our advantage, you've been, you know selected to meet with a panel and so forth that we forget to look at them. The sign is that there is something not quite right. Okay. And I have been a victim of that, of the bright, shiny Knights. And I remember my wonderful mantra. We're going to talk about mantras in a minute. My wonderful mentor. Telling me, are you sure this doesn't sound good? Look at all the mistakes that they have done in the selection process. This is not looking great. I know it's an important role, but. Pay attention to what you're doing to your career. And I was too ambitious and I didn't pay attention when they offered me the job. I took it. And then frankly, it wasn't the best culture. It was a terrible culture. And there was really not much that I could do to change it. And it happens from time to time. Sometimes culture changes halfway through a job. And I have had many clients tell me this, that they were hired by an excellent manager. It was great culture. And then the company was acquired or the, the manager changed and a different manager. Makes a whole difference to a function or department There are endless research. So that show that, you know the importance of great. Silos within organizations and trying to spread that wonderful energy and culture that may exist in pockets of an organization. And then when that manager and that team is dismantled. Disappears and it's such a PD, so. But. If you can identify a difficult, challenging culture during the selection process. I really urge you to pay attention and unless you really absolutely need that job in my case, I didn't, I had a perfectly good job. Let me tell you. and you know, you, can definitely say no and, go for something else that will be more suitable to your values. Your career drivers and your talents. So it is a great question. I think that the talent acquisition of an organization. Is very much correlated with company culture. So paying attention with how they treat candidates, how they approach the selection process, the stages that they have and the way that they go about it, to questions that they ask. So it's important to ensure that you pay attention to those things. And that is part of what we call career marketing, right? Because it's important for a good company that values culture to. Have brand that also includes the talent that they are bringing on board. And how they approach that talent. Makes a whole difference to the recruiting and also the firing of people as well. How they do that is so telling. It shows that there are things we don't see below the surface. And when we see them. We tend to discount. And not trust our intuition because we are. You know, so king to have another job, we forget to pay attention. And intuition comes from knowledge. It comes from experience. It comes from wisdom. You can only have intuition about things like culture. If you know them well, if you've lived through good culture and bed culture, so an experienced professional specially would be able to identify that, but even a younger profession might be able to start learning and tapping into that knowledge in years to come. So, if you are a senior executive, you have hired people in the past, you know, the type of workplace you perform at your best. Then see if the process is going in a way that is aligned with that. And if it's not, then there's your sign. Pay attention to it. And I may be step out. I have seen people step out of recruitment processes because of the way it was held and done and questions of and so forth that they weren't comfortable with. And I I'm a hundred percent behind him. I think unless you are an absolute survival mode, you should definitely step out of processes that are not aligned with your values. Some other great pointers here from people that also answered. The question and these posts from. Sally. Was things like do research, ask around. Absolutely. If you are in a position. At that, you know, someone that works for that organization definitely let them know, send people over heavy. Quiet when they go out to job markets. And I think that that is I can understand. Y you would think it's best not to tell everybody, but. Telling people in a strategic way in confidence. Can bring you a whole lot of intelligence that you don't have, if you don't. Share. What you're doing with people in your network. So listen to what they have to say. I remember once applying for a job here in Melbourne with an organization that was quite well known. This is still very well-known. And I didn't know anybody that were based here, but I knew people that were based in another state. And I said, look, I'm thinking about applying for this row. I was, you know, wondering if you know more about it. And she immediately said, don't, value you. I value your friendship more. And I, I don't want you to, to, to get into that hell hole. And she was on speaker phone And her boss was there too. And he said, yes, I agree with her. And it was, I know they meant well, you know, and I, and I didn't apply. So there you go. And someone else. Said, you know, the questions you ask, right. And, and she has offered one example. How do you approach failure in innovation? Ooh, that is a great question. If people don't know how to answer that. It might be telling at least for some professionals, depending on what your work and what you do. And, and I think that that is such an important question to, to consider asking at the tail end of an interview process. Okay. So yes, culture so important, you know, culture. shines when we are in a crisis. Right. So during the pandemic organizations that had amazing culture and lived it. they kept going because management was confusing and convoluted. So they knew what to do. They knew the company's values. They knew what they had to do for everybody. And. that meant internally and externally. And in those times are the times when you see culture shiny and day-to-day is just a much more. Healthy workplace to work. And I think that we may think we can endure bad culture for a while, but it takes a toll on your health. And I have lots of health issues today that are related to stress that I don't have anymore in my life. Thank goodness. I've cleaned up a lot of stresses from my, life, but I'm sure I'm paying a price from stressors from the past. So even if you're feeling nice and healthy now, and you're coping well. let a 51 year old woman tell you it eventually catches up with you. And I don't want you to go through any of the things I have gone through dealing with some health issues that are related to, to stress that I certainly don't have any more. I have a wonderful life. Thank goodness. But I've had some very challenging workplace situations in my past that I think really caused a lot of damage to my health then. And now.
All right. Let's look at another question. I suddenly lost my notes. Let me find it back. Oh, here we go.
Hmm. I love this next question. It was a client that emailed me and asked how to ask a former manager to be my mentor. And I loved this because. It is such an important thing to reach out to people that managed you in the past. They are such great sources of intelligence about you. They can tell you to. You know, things like you can ask them. What do you think I was best at when you managed me? What were my biggest advantages and qualities? As a professional that I can use again, I remember asking that many times as I was exiting jobs. And after, especially after they are not managers anymore. They are so good at telling you what you're good at. One of my managers told me. Renata, you are great at taking a project that is kind of not doing so well and just. Making it really good, like. Like you, you are a leader that transforms something into something else and you meet those KPIs. You're good at that. You're good at managing people. I, and, that gave me such confidence to hear that. In such clarity and crystallized in my mind that, yes, I am good at managing people. I'm good in sort of telling people what to do. Building teams building something out of nothing, you know? I'm very good at that. And she also told me what I wasn't good at. You know, you're not very good at managing up. So work on that. That is your professional development and especially for a more experienced professionals. Knowing what you still need to work on is important because that is very likely a question that you will be asked. In an interview, and this is not a tricky question. they're not Trying to get you. They're trying to understand if you're a self-aware and you understand. What you need to work on, right? Because everybody has flaws everybody. And if you know what they are and you're working on them and you have some mechanisms. To deal with them then. Excellent. They want to hire you, right? So you need to know how to talk about them with that level of confidence. So approaching them. A former manager to mentor you. Can be super rewarding for both of you, for you and the mentor. It provides in science advice, connection, and can really help you advance your career.
So before reaching out, I want you to do some self-reflection understand what is it that you're looking for? And what you want to gain from that mentoring. Is it really a mentoring or do you want to catch up with them? And that's fine to. You know, you reach out to them and say, are you keen to have a coffee? Are you doing well? You know, I have some time on my hands. I'm between jobs now. It'd be nice to see you. It doesn't have to be a mentoring opportunity. Can just be it. An informal catch-up. But if you want to reach out to ask specific questions, then do that self-reflection and think about what it is that you need to know. And how they can help you. You know, you're going out asking for advice, not for help. And asking some questions about the work that you've done together or what advice they have for you. In terms of where to go next. Right? I remember once calling in and asking. You know, what's the big elephant in the room. What do you think people say about me that I don't know. So those sorts of interesting questions that. When you're working with a person you can't ask, but after you live, you know, it's the perfect time. Choose the right way of connecting with them. So some people love emails, others don't, some people just wanted to give them a call. You know, if they usually older. I prefer calls. I prefer emails. With my clients. I tell my clients text or WhatsApp may only if it's urgent and it's like the weekend or late at night, some clients of mine are overseas. Actually most of my clients are not in Australia. So if there is an urgency, what's an urgency for our career coach. It's like I have a job interview tomorrow. They just called me. Call me as soon as you can. That is an emergency because for private clients, I am on call. So you know, every person that's busy has there. Mediums everybody has their favorite medium. Some people are fine way the linkedIn message. Others never look at LinkedIn messages. So remember. Or how your manager likes to receive communications and reach out to them in that way. And start the conversation with gratitude and express to them how you appreciated their leadership and the sort of impact that it had in your career how it has guided you. and I think that that's so important. That people feel appreciated, you know, I know. I love when somebody reaches out to me years after I've managed them and tell me something that just warms my heart, you know, I. A few years ago, I visited an old workplace and there was somebody there that had worked for me before. And she said, you know, this thing that you told me has helped me not only my job, but also my life, you know, it's being such a. good technique that I've used. And, I learned it from you. And I had forgotten all about it. And I went back and I found the technique that she was talking about something to do with positive psychology. I was very much into that. About 12, 15 years ago. And still am, but in a different way. And I said, oh, this is such a great idea out. I'll bring that back. To my repertoire off of what I work with clients has made such a great impact for her. It can help somebody else as well. So it's wonderful to listen to things like this. And to know that you've helped somebody in some way. I'm proud of that. I think people are really proud of that. So, Starting with that. Gratitude is important. But also be concise, be clear, don't write an essay to them if you're writing an email, for example. Right. So. Don't be too long. I've recently reached out to. My mentor and. I know that. The emails are read by him and his executive assistants. So I made it really informal. I mean, I've been catching up with him for how much 15 years now or more. So it was just like, I'm going to Sydney. Do you have time for me? And you know, I addressed it to both of them, to him and his EA and received a message. Soon after. It doesn't have to be. A huge medicines even DOE. I felt guilty that I hadn't reached out for a long time. It didn't have to be a big message. Right. It can be concise and clear. And enthusiastic and high energy. I think that that was important. I'm always trying to be enthusiastic in a high energy. I think the things that you should avoid when reaching out to mentors is saying that you need help. You know, I need help. Can you help me that usually scares people off? Unfortunately. I think asking you for advice is better, but wait until you, you. See them face-to-face or have that conversation via zoom or. Call. To say, look I'm I'm between jobs. For example, if that's the situation or I'm. having trouble with my manager now. And I, don't know, you know how to address it. I was hoping to get your advice. This is what's going on? What do you think I can do better? What do you think? You know, I can do in the company. Should I escalate this? Like, there are so many reasons why a mentor that has managed you before. Can I help you. So yeah, I hope that helps and I will add the e mail that you could send out in the episode show notes.
Another great question. How to give feedback to a work colleague without causing more issues. I have clients that have found jobs and continue to work with me. Right. I don't talk about this very often. But it's something that happens from time to time that people want to and make sure that they are. Advancing in their workplace They have a. soundboard, somebody that can work with them on issues as they arise. And I currently have, I don't know. Two or three clients like that. three clients, for sure like that. Right. They run, renew them the contracts with me and we just carry on. Coaching and I have a fourth one starting in December. . It's a weird time to start, but it suits her. So there you go.
All right. And one of the. Most. Popular issues that happen when you're working in any work environment is difficult work colleagues, right. I think. Things that happened. Between different functions or within the team. That are. Making it more challenging for you to do your work? Even barricading your work. And you need to provide some feedback to that colleague without causing more issues and escalating the situation. I often recommend the BI S model it's behavior. And impact and suggestion. That's what the B I N S stand for. I've been using this and the radical candor feedback model and the radical candor. I'm going to put a link in the episode, show notes. I'm not going to talk about it. Because it's hard for me to recommend without working one-on-one with a client, it's a harder model to implement a cam and cause more problems, even though I love it. You should read the book. It's not for every work culture we discussed culture before. So go back to that question. if you've been skipping. In this episode so the radical candor book has an amazing sort of philosophy on how to provide feedback that. Needs an experienced hand. All right. And a special type of workplace for it to work. And I love it, but I'm not going to talk about it now. The BIS model is much more conservative. And more widely. Used and And I think it can work for almost every workplace. So that's why I'm going to talk about this one. And I want to talk about it. I want to answer this question. I could have chosen not to answer this question, but. It's such an important question and we should provide feedback on people's behaviors and learn to receive them as well. Right. So, Feedback is an essential tool in the workplace. I find it there because I work with clients around the world. I find that there are some cultures. That are much more okay. With feedback. And give them more openly than others in Australia. We're not very good at. Either giving or receiving feedback in the workplace. But when they are provided effectively. It can really. Inspire change. It can make the performance of the entire team better the entire organization better. And it can help somebody grow professionally and personally, right? You, if you receive feedback, You can grow professionally. I just told you about receiving feedback about managing app. I worked really hard on that. I didn't think it was completely true. And that's okay too. You have to trust your intuition. And know, you know what to take from feedback and, and what may be a little bit biased. But I understood it and I worked on it and the BIS motto. is a structured approach, right? if you follow it, it will provide you that guidance of the structure. To deliver both good and bad feedback. We don't call it bad. In fact, we call it constructive, but you know what I mean? And having that structure is important because. It allows you to sort of focus and not be emotional about it or anxious about it or stressed about it because you know, you have a structure. To follow. So let's talk about the behavior, the first part of the feedback. This is the starting point. Here you are going to describe something very specific that you've observed the behavior. And it's very important to stick to facts and avoid. Your personal biases or emotions. So I'm going to say something that I don't think would work. So saying something like you were very rude doing the meeting. Right. Even though, that's what you thought, even though that's what I hear from my clients, when they come to me and say, oh my gosh, That person in the meeting, she was so rude or he was so rude. And that is not the right feedback to give the correct feedback is to say something like. Let's say the name of the person is. Tammy Tammy. Doing the team meeting. I noticed you interrupted several colleagues while they were speaking. I heard. I'm terrible. I just thought, oh, Tammy's one of the most amazing people. I know. Why did I use that name?
I don't think to listens to this podcast, but yeah, a former colleague of mine. No, she would never do this. But anyway, it was just hard choosing a name. Alright, so Tammy, right during a meeting, I noticed you interrupted several colleagues while they were speaking. Okay. So it is a behavior that you noticed. It doesn't provide any buyers or emotions. It is a fact. And then you're going to impact. So after you highlight the behavior, it's important to. Explain to the person, the consequences of that type of behavior. And even though it can.
Seeing, like you're explaining something so obvious it's important to follow up with this step, right. Instead of saying things like, I know people didn't like what you did, you were rude people. Didn't like what you did. You can say. You know, people, if we do that in. And continue to interrupt. People when they speaking people will be reluctant to share their views in future meetings. So we are going to possibly miss out on their input and, We don't want that. So that's kind of how you, would frame it. And then the S of the best BIS model is suggestion. So suggestion means that you're providing an actionable pathway. Right now I sometimes tell my client. I sometimes I always tell my clients. All is give two suggestions you can live with, right? So in this. Kay's I kind of transform the way we well known BIS model into bism. Model, but the reason why I like to give more than one suggestion is that I want people to have agency. So if I'm giving a constructive feedback to someone. I want them to have agency to feel like they can choose the way forward for them that better suits their personality. And I also like to open up and say, do you have any other suggestions there, anything else that we can do? In the future so that it doesn't happen again. So I like to give people agency, but let's talk about how to give suggestion. Instead of saying next time, Tammy, I need you to speak class.
And I know that that is something. People have said to me, So it's awful. And why would people say this to me? Because I am verbose. I am flamboyant. I'm Brazilian. Did you know, you probably have noticed. I have an accent. So I'm from Latin America and south America. In fact, in. And I think that we, just talk more than other people. If you've been to south America, you know, this, we are very talkative. And then I have been told to talk less. So that is not the correct way to suggest. The right way would be to say, You know, next time. Considered. Writing down your thoughts and as they come to mind, you know, because that's probably, you know why you sort of so excited To share them and then let's share them. Bartlett's share them after others have spoken. Right. So I think that that's, you know, what do you think Tammy? Do you have any other ideas? Or, you know, you can. Come to me afterwards and, share with me your concerns. Because I know I want to hear them. Right. So you give them two options. I, as a manager have always done that. I like that. I remember. Does this thing that I often tell my clients as well when I was starting a new job and it was such a difficult one because. I knew I had to ask some people to leave. I was told by the manager, look, some people are not performing well. It's your role to figure out what to do. And it was the worst thing to say to a new manager. And I remember one thing that I came up with that I tell my. My clients often is
I want to be the best possible manager for you. Tell me what you want. Do you want me to manage you in. Do you want to meet to manage you up? Or do you want me to manage you out? Whatever you choose. I am a hundred percent behind you. And two of them asked out. One wanted to go back to steady and she became an amazing professional. And the other one was never happy. She never liked that job. And she told me, you know, can you be my reference? I'm applying for jobs. And I'm like, yes, I will help you find another job. Let's do this. Right. So why not? I think he was the best thing I've ever done. And I know many of my clients have used that with their teams as well.
All right. Do we have time for more questions? How to find out what to wear. For your interview or new job? Ah, this is such a post pandemic question. I think. Before the pandemic, everybody knew what to wear for a job interview or for a new job now. The corporate attire has changed. I feel like I need to interview somebody again, a stylist. Talk about this. Because even when you go into the office, I've been told by my clients, people are dressed differently. There's hardly any stilettos. Or heels people are wearing suits with sneakers. Now, have you noticed. And and it's. Very confusing for some people, if you've been working remotely and all of a sudden you're back in the office. Or you, if you have a job interview coming up, even if it's a zoom interview or a face-to-face interview, you. You kind of forgotten what to wear. And I think it's important to.
Well, first of all, it's important to be concerned about it because that first impression. Is part of your interviewing process. So don't underestimate the power of whatever you're wearing. It doesn't have to be a power suit. If that's not the vibe of the industry of the company. If you have time. There is a little tip that I have been giving all of my career. And it is to go to the nearest coffee shop next to the workplace that you are going to be interviewed for, or you're working at. And watch people coming in and out of that workplace go early, like 7:00 AM, 8:00 AM and sit there. Grab a latte, grabbed a newspaper, pretend that you're busy. And just watch people coming in and out. I used to do this. Back and 2011. With university students. So we had a group of university students that all wanted to do accounting or. I work for a big consulting firms and they came from blue collar families first, and the family to go to universities or they were indigenous, or they were international students. And these are sort of the minorities that don't perform well in, in the interviewing process. So he used to take extra care with them and go take them through. Two or three days sort of workshop. Inside the chartered accountants office. I loved running that at the end of the year for those young professionals. And one of the things that we use to do. Is go to Collins street here in Melbourne. I sit at one of the cafes and just watch people coming in and out wearing suits. Professionals that were just a few years older than them. And observing what they were wearing. And that was part of the, yeah, the interviewing. Workshop that we did. And then my wonderful Friend Bronny, Fraser and she's styling again. she left Melbourne during the pandemic. She just emailed me to say she has returned. We hired her to. teach the students about style and, corporate attire. And it was the most gorgeous workshop that I know she loved doing, and I just loved observing her in the students interact. So everybody can do this. Everybody should do this, so don't forget to do it So, like I said, the best time to do this is early in the morning or in late afternoon, but they'd have to know is hard because some people live really late and the coffee shops are closed. So yes, I wouldn't recommend sitting at a pub. And waiting for them to come because the pumps are not so close. In OncoLink street. And I know this is the same in every big town. They're usually coffee shops, right under the corporate building. So you can sit there and just watch them come in and out.
Okay, final question. Following your advice. I took a week off work to focus on job applications. What should I do? Great question. Great question. You should aim at doing up to four great well-researched job applications during that week off. No more. Don't send hundreds right. More than that, and it's too much and you won't do a good job, right? So Glassdoor LinkedIn, a great sources of information on companies. And their recruitment processes. And also company websites. And Google news and all of that. So pay attention. To doing the research instead of starting day one with job applications. Start the one with finding maybe two jobs that you want to apply for. Don't send them. And do a lot of research about those organizations before sending out your application. When answering. Questions from recruiters. It's important to know how to answer questions properly. You may have heard of the star concept. And I know that week, you probably won't be interviewed, but you can use that week to practice. Practicing for interview is so important and people don't do that. They only stand up applications and they don't think about the next step. So. I practice with the LinkedIn tool. I will put a link to it below. There's a tool on LinkedIn with several questions and you can answer questions via video. And LinkedIn provides you with some feedback which is all AI. And it's amazing. It's been going on for a couple of years. But still, I feel like people don't know much about it. What else? When contacting recruiters. Right emails. And write them. And proper English and not SMS language or tweet language or X language. I don't know how to call Twitter anymore. Such a great name. I don't know why he changed the name. But I find that even when people reach out to me
they, you know because they want to know about my cold chain. I think that they don't put a lot of care in the emails and that doesn't leave a good first impression. Now it won't hurt me. I will still answer you back, but I'm not sure about recruiters. Okay. So remember that and maybe write some templates, have them ready. So if you go back to your job they already for you to send out and you can use that week to get prepped and, plan ahead.
And finally, I want to say the research, her career is the best investment that you can make for this week. Right. Some people have asked, you know, can I have a session with you this week? I, I can't tell you how many times this happened. Can I have a session with you this week? I have the week off, or, You know, have only just found out about you. many times I don't have time. I'm fully booked, you know, and I, get booked. So, if you're listening to this episode now, and you look at my calendars and try to book a consultation with me, you will probably see that. You need at least two, if not three weeks. To book a time with me. And I say there that if you have an emergency reach out, I will try to squeeze you in. Well, it's an emergency. You have an interview, right? So I have a client. Consultation clients. She booked a meeting with me. Yesterday. And then I noticed she canceled and booked it two weeks from now, because that was the only that she booked the first available spot and I'm like, Hmm, okay, let me just reach out and ask what's going on. And I said, I noticed you changed. That's fine by me. I hope all is well with you. And she said, I changed because. Work booked a meeting at the same time. And I can't get out of that meeting. But I do have an interview Friday. And I'm like, okay, I will squeeze you in tomorrow. Thankfully, I had a cancellation from another client that is not feeling well and I was able to slot her in. Otherwise I would still do it at 8:00 PM at night if I had to, because if she has an interview on Friday and she invested in me, You know, she can't wait two weeks to talk to me. I really want her to win that interview. So she's having that consultation tomorrow, but you see what I mean? Like the research or career. It's a great investment for that week because he has all the masterclasses. That you need to kickstart that job search. It has resources like templates, resume templates, the. Email to the recruiter that I mentioned before. I have a template for that inside. And it's very good investment. It's not that expensive. So have a look, I'll have a link in the episode, show notes. You can go to my website. Find out more. And yeah, I would definitely recommend the reset your career as part of that. week that you have off. You didn't, give me your name, but I hope that it helps you and other people out there. Look, I love answering questions. If you have questions for me, all you need to do is reply back to my newsletter that I send out every week. If you haven't subscribed yet. Please do so it's a weekly newsletter and it's for people that want to advance in their careers, I will send you the new episode of the podcast and some extra content. Did I send just to my subscribers. So. Consider subscribing. And then you reply back with your question or if, you really don't want to subscribe send it via maybe a LinkedIn message or. Any sort of social network I'm in all of them. So yeah, I love questions. It's so telling for me, you know to know what people are thinking about and what's. Of concern to them, same questions become entire episodes. And some others in, you know, like these ones I make. A Q and a, and I love doing it. And until next time, I'll see you next week. Bye for now.